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Wells appear “marbled” after developing

  • GM
    Guest Maxi2024-09-18T09:13:31Z

    I am helping a colleague establish a B cell ELISpot assay in our lab. I previously worked with T cell ELISpot without issues, so I’m a bit unsure of the current problem. We trialed using total IgG and BSA coating (as a negative control for our recombinant protein). For total IgG, we coated with unconjugated anti-human IgG, and for BSA, we used BSA in PBS. The detection antibody was the same for both—biotinylated anti-human IgG—followed by Strep-ALP and BCIP/NBT substrate. We removed the backing of the plate during washing before adding Strep-ALP, which always worked for T cell ELISpot, and followed Mabtech's recommendations for antibody concentrations.

    However, when we developed the assay, a marbled pattern appeared in the wells, regardless of whether we used total IgG or BSA coating. My guesses are interference from human serum albumin in the medium or the ethanol (35%) being left on too long (as my colleague ran the experiment for the first time). Could these be the causes, or are there other factors to consider? We also checked cell viability and varied cell numbers, but the wells still showed the same pattern.

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  • C
    Christian@mabtech.com2024-09-18T09:27:13Z
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    If you have a nill result in ELISpot (ie no spots at all) and allow the substrate reaction to go for quite some time, wells can often appear like this.

    Can you give me details about the antibodies used for total IgG? Are they from Mabtech?

    You have to use antibodies that have been validated for ELISpot. Not all ELISA mabs will work.

    Once we have established that reagents are good, next hurdle is looking into your cells. Memory B-cells in PBMC need to be pre-activated for 3 days in vitro (R848+rIL2) in order become activated and secrete IgG. Take PBMC and just test them for IgG straight away and you pretty much have no IgG spots.

    I am here to help! Come back with some info and we sort this out.

  • GM
    Guest Maxi2024-09-18T12:03:29Z

    2 hours ago, Christian@mabtech.com said:

    Can you give me details about the antibodies used for total IgG? Are they from Mabtech?

    We use Mabtech antibodies for IgG

    3850-6-250 and 3850-3-250

    all other reagents are Mabtech as well. 

    And the memory b cells were previously pre-activated as you mentioned above.

  • C
    Christian@mabtech.com2024-09-19T07:53:29Z
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    Are you using BCIP/NBT Plus from Mabtech suitable for ELISpot? If you are using ELISA substrate it will not work. ELISpot requires a precipitating substrate in order for spots to form. Very easy to make the mistake when grabbing the substrate from the fridge.

    Furhtermore you mention the code, but are these the clones you have used?:

    Capture mAb MT91/145
    Detection mAb MT78/145, biotin

    What about cells number for total IgG? I am focusing on that because this should work very reliably. After preactivation for 3 days its really important that the cells are washed numerous times in order to get rid of all soluble IgG. I recommend washing the cells 3x and making sure that cell supernatant is really removed at each wash. You can get away with 2x wash as well but then the supernatant need to be removed pretty much 99.8% at each wash.

    Finally before plating the cells are you checking viability of the PBMC. If it has dropped to low you can end up with a nil result. The B-cells are not feeling great and therefore no IgG is being secreted by the cells.